If You’ve Got the Dime, He’s Got the Crime

From The Raw Story:

Constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley believes that not only did Vice President Dick Cheney “unambiguously” confess to a war crime during an ABC interview on Monday, but the US’ future as a nation may depend on taking action.


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Asked by MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann whether Cheney had just confessed to a war crime on national television, Turley at first replied wryly, “It’s an interesting question, isn’t it? … If someone commits a crime and everyone’s around to see it and does nothing, is it still a crime?”

“It most certainly is a crime to participate, to create, to in many ways monitor a torture program,” he added. “What [Cheney] is describing is most certainly and unambiguously a war crime.”

During Monday’s interview, Cheney was asked, “Did you authorize the tactics that were used against Khalid Sheikh Mohamed?” and replied, “I was aware of the program, certainly, and involved in helping get the process cleared.”

“What happens if the next administration does not press this?” Olbermann asked. “Do we let the International Court at the Hague come in and take over all our responsibilities for policing our own act here?”

“That’s what worries me the most,” Turley replied, “is that you can’t talk about change without having some moral component to it. It’s not just about creating jobs or lowering the price of gasoline.”

“What occurred in the last eight years was an assault on who we are,” Turley said. “I think that President-elect Obama’s going to have to decide whether he wants power without principle or whether he wants to start with a true change, to say that no matter where an investigation will take us, if there are crimes to be found they will be prosecuted.”

“It will ultimately depend on citizens, and whether they will remain silent in the face of a crime that’s been committed in plain view,” Turley concluded. “It is equally immoral to stand silent in the face of a war crime and do nothing, and that is what the citizens are doing. There’s this gigantic yawn.”

From the San Francisco Chronicle:

On Monday of this week, George W. Bush’s scowling sidekick and secretive Svengali, Dick Cheney, emerged from his hiding place to speak with ABC News reporter Jonathan Karl. In his interview with the American TV network, Cheney acknowledged his approval of the torture methods the Bush-Cheney gang has employed in its hapless “war on terror.”

Notes commentator Matthew Duss in Britain’s Guardian: “The notion that the presidency of George [W.] Bush has been a disaster for the U.S. approaches the level of self-evident truth. It has actually become quite difficult to find anyone who isn’t a personal friend of the president who will argue otherwise. But…Dick Cheney isn’t sorry about any of it.” In his ABC News interview he “betrayed no second thoughts – and certainly no remorse – about the policies pursued by the administration that he both served and, according to some, led. Watching Cheney’s brusque dismissal of concerns about his methods in the [so-called] war on terror, you’d be forgiven for coming to the mistaken impression that these methods have worked. There is no evidence that they have.”

Duss points out that, in the interview, when “pressed” by reporter Karl “on concerns” about the military jail at the U.S. Naval Base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, “where suspects are held indefinitely as ‘illegal combatants,’ Cheney claimed that many of them ‘have been released back to their home countries.’ He then insisted: ‘What we have left is the hard core.’ But, of course, Cheney has always insisted that those held in Guantánamo were the hard core – the ‘worst of the worst,’ as former U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld put it – while ignoring evidence that many were falsely imprisoned there, and assiduously working to quash efforts to ascertain their actual guilt or innocence. Confronted with criticisms of the Bush administration’s torture policy, Cheney simply lied, saying: ‘We don’t do torture. We never have.’” However, later in the ABC News interview, “Cheney bluntly admitted that he had supported the waterboarding of al-Qaeda mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

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France’s conservative daily, Le Figaro, points out to French readers that, customarily, at the end of his term in office, an American president can and does use his constitutionally designated power to issue pardons to wrongdoers, and that there is currently speculation about whether or not Bush might pardon, en masse, the many participants in his administration’s lawless “war on terror” – including torturers on the U.S. government’s payroll and their high-ranking enablers – who played criminal roles in that aimless battle.

A question for the Bush-Cheney gang’s hair-splitting legal eagles: Would such an executive pardon explicitly cover Cheney’s wrongdoings, too?

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16 responses to “If You’ve Got the Dime, He’s Got the Crime

  1. Dusty

    I go to Vegas for three friggin days and see what I miss?

    No MSNBC in my hotel room damn it!!!!!

  2. That “moral component” Turley mentioned is justice. Civil government is founded on justice, and it is justice that makes a nation great. A great nation would never countenance the bold confession of a war criminal like Cheney without taking him to the bar of justice, and letting the nation drink its fill.

    And I’ll drink to that.

  3. welcome back, dusty! :)
    hope you had fun in vegas!

    you didn’t miss anything much, just cheney admitting that he okayed torture.

  4. saitia,
    pass that bottle, ’cause i’ll drink to that, too! if the obama’s justice department allows them to get away with war crimes, we might has well hang it all up. the usa is done. stick a fork in it.

  5. nightowl724

    I saw this interview. This line blew me away: Do we let the International Court at the Hague come in and take over all our responsibilities for policing our own act here? How embarrassing and frightening would that be?

    Dick continues to be a dick…

    nonnie continues to be a genius…

  6. i can’t imagine the united states allowing a self-confessed war criminal to remain free. are we outsourcing justice now?

  7. jlms qkw - jenn

    dick cheney before he dicks you (jon stewart)

  8. If the U.S. has to outsource our justice, then we’re not any better than Chile.

  9. jenn,
    i am afraid it’s way too late. deadeye dick has already dicked us over a million times.

  10. neon vincent,
    we are no better than a lot of countries lately. i hope things change quickly after january 20th, but i think it might take years to uncover everything that has occurred the last 8 years and to undo that which can be undone.

  11. Sending old men to jail isn’t at all pathetic when you consider how much more they should know better.
    Dick in jail sounds like perfect justice.

  12. karen,
    deadeye dick is not as old as people think of him being. he’s 68, and with all the medical attention and stainless steel parts he’s been given, he could live for another 30 years. i think they should be spent in jail. then again, is that really worse than spending them with lynne cheney?

  13. jeb

    I’d love nothing better than seeing Dick and KKKarl in matching orange jump suits.

  14. jeb,
    don’t leave out rummy and gonzo. and woo. and addington. and….oh, there are so many…..

  15. you KNOW he said all this because bush is going to preemptively pardon him = ALL of them

  16. dcAp,
    i honestly don’t know what will happen pardon-wise. if chimpy pardons everyone, he is admitting that they all broke the law. he’s such an arrogant a$$hole, that i don’t know if he would be willing to do that. on the other hand, i don’t know if he has much of a choice.

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