From The Washington Post (9/6/2007):
Nuking Iran: The Republican Agenda?
At the Republican debate last night, almost all the candidates said that they would not rule out a nuclear attack on Iran as a means to prevent it from getting its own nuclear weapons. Only one of these knuckleheads would say that attacking Iran — indeed even threatening to nuke Iran — is not the right strategy.
Duncan Hunter:
I would authorize the use of tactical nuclear weapons if there was no other way to preempt those particular centrifuges
Rudy Giuliani:
the job “could be done with conventional weapons,” but he added that “you can’t rule out anything and you shouldn’t take any option off the table.”
Mitt Romney:
I wouldn’t take any options off the table.
(Bet’cha the table is butcherblock!)
Only Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, the “Dennis the Menace” of his party, said he opposed a nuclear strike on moral grounds and because he believed Iran “has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security.”
From Fox News (oooh, I just threw up a little in my mouth! ):
THOMPSON: Iran is becoming more and more obvious, a major, major problem for the United States of America. They are killing our people. They are killing our people as we speak, and they’re putting a little shield that you can see through from a mile away to try to defend themselves in the court of public opinion.
We cannot allow this to go on forever. The backdrop of all this, of course, is the fact they claim they’ve got 3,000 centrifuges now and basically reprocessing that uranium enough to get fissile material within the next few years and most experts think well on their way to making a nuclear weapon and, of course, they’ve threatened Israel.
I don’t know how much more stark the situation can be. They perceive us as being weak. They perceive us as being divided, and they think they can get away with anything. They are perhaps getting closer to a revolution in Iran. That economy is so bad, the civil oppression is so bad against their own people, we’ve got some friends among those people there, there are some good things that can happen.
The military or nuclear option or whatever certainly should be the last thing to be considered. There are an awful lot of good things that can happen between now and then, but there are no options that can be taken off the table of a country that’s intent on becoming dangerous to us and the rest of the world forever.
HANNITY: So that means that America must have a plan and prepare for possible military action if they’re on the verge of getting nuclear weapons?
THOMPSON: Yes.
Let’s check in with John McCain:
You know that old Beach Boys song, Bomb Iran? Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.
Tom Tancredo (from Rightwing News (oy, i feel sick! :
John Hawkins: Let me ask you another question, it’s Iran related. I heard that you support the National Council of Resistance (NCR), a political arm of the Mujahedin-e Kalq (MEK)…
Tom Tancredo: Yes, I do.
John Hawkins: While they are certainly an anti-Iranian group, the State Department says they are also terrorists. Do you believe that to be the case and…
Tom Tancredo: Well, if you’re a mullah in Iran, you definitely view them as a terrorist. They’re not a terrorist threat to the United States. They pose absolutely no threat. In fact, they are a great asset. They are the ones who have brought to light almost everything we know about the nuclear capabilities…
John Hawkins: Now I’m just asking, have they made any sort of attacks on civilians or US troops?
Tom Tancredo: Back in the 1970s, right around the time of the takeover of our embassy and that sort of thing, they were accused of launching attacks against Americans. They deny it, but whether it’s true or not, it was more than twenty years ago and they metamorphosed into the most significant threat to the present regime in Iran that exists today. The head of the organization is a woman who is very charismatic, she believes in women’s rights, she believes in Democracy in Iran…I do support their efforts. I understand that the US characterizes them as a terrorist organization, but what you have to understand is that they were identified as such only after the Clinton administration agreed to mollify the regime in Iran. They wanted to reach some kind of detente with Iran, with the mullahs. The mullahs had only one demand, and that was that we put the Mujahedin-e Kalq on the terrorist list and so it was done for political reasons, not because they posed any threat to the United States.
John Hawkins: And they don’t kill Iranian civilians or that sort of thing either?
Tom Tancredo: Well, they attack and do assassinate members of the Iranian government, yeah. That part of the world, it’s not a Sunday school picnic over there.
John Hawkins: I understand. A lot of people seem to think Iran is going to fall in a revolution at some point. How long do you think they have or do you think that’s the case necessarily?
Tom Tancredo: No idea. Believe me, these things are much too hard to predict. We’re talking about so many variables. I can tell you, it would come quicker if we supported the Mujahedin-e Kalq.
John Hawkins: Should we be giving them a push…
Tom Tancredo: Absolutely, we should be aiding them instead of restricting their activities…
John Hawkins: As far as our Iranian policy goes, should we use troops, should we funnel arms to them…
Tom Tancredo: No, no, no, absolutely not. We can use the Mujahedin-e Kalq, they are in fact warriors. Where we need to use that kind of force, we can use them. Where we need to apply other kinds of force, we can do it. Economically, surreptitiously…we can do it.
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These dumb fucks want to kill multitudes of people and destroy another country so that they will stop hating on the USA. People who you are trying to kill or threatening to try to kill, have every right to hate you and want to do you harm. What the hell do they expect? These fools are armed and dangerous.
fotc, the thought of any of these asshole having their oily fingers on the button scares the shit out of me.
They want to be the war president during a war that lasts forever. And they don’t care who has to die to make their dream come true. What contempt they must have for the American People, to try to put another actor in the role of “commander and chief”, tonight, the role of leader of the free world will be played by that guy from “Law and Order”.
Is anyone here old enough to remember the Carol Burnett Show and her recurring skit “As the Stomach Turns?”
Well, my stomach has been turning since Bush took office. I am afraid of my own government. I live in fear for the children in my house, the children in my country, and the children in the Mid-East. I can’t believe this is happening…
Nonnie, your stuff is has always been clever, well-executed, and relevant. “Party Monsters” is no exception!
Hell, I am old enough to remember Carol Burnett on the Gary Moore Show. I loved the old comedy variety shows. The Bush Administration has been very stomach turning. It is heart breaking, too. I am ashamed of the world that we are leaving our children.
i just hope there is a world left to leave to the next generation after these jokers get done with it.
They have diminished hope and made trust a dangerous thing.
I find myself actually apologizing to my kids and their friends for the mess that was created “on my watch.”
Along these lines is this video from GreenPeace, entitled “We’d Better Listen”:
i don’t think we are the ones who owe the kids an apology. however, i think handwritten notes to every kid is due from every member of congress, every judge, every election official, who thrust us into this shitstorm in the first place and kept us there since.
Hey, nons, you have a message at the corral. Get it while you can, please….
Alright cowboys, what is “the corral?”
I think that the ‘corral’, is where the diary rescue rangers go to figure out who’s turn it is to be on duty. Otherwise, maybe 9999 and the gripper are secret agents or something.
Oh. Thanks, fotc.
sorry, nightowl, for not answering sooner. at 6:00, when i was heading out to the supermarket for a few things, my son got a phone call from one of his friends. as it turned out, the friend and his girlfriend were coming over for dinner, and i had no idea what i was going to cook. well, i raced through the store, raced home, and put away groceries while trying to cook. everyone ate and enjoyed, so that is all that matters. long story just a bit longer, i was not at the computer all day long, and when i did get back i had to try to slap together a poster and diary for tonight.
fotc was close, but i am not a ranger. the corral is just what gotta calls a little message board set up to leave messages instead of clogging up the email accounts.
(pssstttt, fotc! haven’t i told you a million times not to tell anyone that i am a secret agent?!)
Sorry, about the leak, nonnie. Just tell everyone that you don’t recall remembering about that “agent”, thing. After I heard about it, from some reporter, I thought you weren’t undercover. ‘The dog barks at midnight’.
it’s okay, scoo….i mean, fotc. 🙂
“the ferry docks on the north side.”