Prince of Darkness

BAGHDAD (Reuters) – The Iraqi government wants security firm Blackwater to pay $8 million in compensation to each of the families of 17 people killed in a shooting, a senior government source said on Tuesday.

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The source said the figure was roughly in line with compensation paid by the Libyan government to the families of the 270 people killed in the 1988 Lockerbie airline bombing over Scotland.

“We want them to pay $8 million for each family,” the source told Reuters. “The same level as the compensation for the Lockerbie victims.”

Blackwater had been told of the demand, the source said. It was unclear what the private American firm’s response was.

Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said on Sunday an investigation set up by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki had found Blackwater “deliberately killed” the 17 people in the September 16 shooting in western Baghdad.

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Blackwater employs about 1,000 people in Iraq. Its founder, former Navy SEAL Erik Prince, told a Congressional hearing last week that his men had come under small-arms fire and “returned fire at threatening targets”.

Iz zat right?

From CNN:

Hasan Jaber Salman lies in Yarmouk Hospital, bandages covering gunshot wounds in his back.

Salman says he is a lawyer who was headed from a courthouse to the Ministry of Justice when he found his route blocked by four armored Blackwater SUVs.

The roadblock soon caused a traffic snarl, so armed Blackwater guards began waving at the drivers, telling them to turn around and leave the area.

“So we turned back, and as we turned back they opened fire at all cars from behind,” Salman said. “All my injuries, the bullets are in my back.

“Within two minutes the security force arrived in planes — part of the security company Blackwater. They started firing randomly at all citizens.”

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The firm [Blackwater] also said its employees “acted lawfully and appropriately in response to a hostile attack.”

But Salman claims the attack was unprovoked.

“No one fired at them, they were not attacked by gunmen, they were not targeted by an explosion,” he said. Video Watch the survivors describe what happened.

The firing continued until Salman’s car crashed into a police checkpoint and flipped over, he said, adding that eight bullets struck his car and four struck him.

“My left shoulder is broken … and my arm is broken. I had a surgery. … They opened up my stomach,” he said. “I swear to God no one did anything to them at all.”

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Laborer Abul-Raheem Amir said he was on his way to a job when the minibus he was in got caught in a traffic jam caused by an explosion.

“A security company called Blackwater, they got out and kept on firing randomly at people, starting with the people walking or working the street — even the traffic policeman, even the people who work in the area,” Amir said.

“People at first thought we were safe in the minibus, but when they realized they were not, they started getting out and went to other places to save themselves,” he recounted. “Unfortunately that did not work. As they got out, people were shot and killed.”

He said he tried to make a run for it after the driver and two women next to him on the minibus were shot.

“I ran about 50 meters [about 55 yards] and then was shot, the first bullet. Still I kept running, but the second bullet dropped me to the ground. … It broke my bones, and the third one made me start crawling.”

Some people helped get him off the street and away from the carnage. The shooting lasted for about a half-hour, and there were some 30 bodies in the street, he said.

“I remember people strewn on the streets, children, elderly, young men, elderly women. … The street turned into the street of the dead, a graveyard,” he said.

“There was nothing I could do. Every man was for himself.”

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13 responses to “Prince of Darkness

  1. Friend of the court

    Hired guns acting outside the law, if they think that this will spread “democracy”, then, ‘I don’t think that word means what they think it means’.

  2. nonnie9999

    nobody gives a shit about democracy. it is, and always has been, about the money. chimpy, cheney, prince, all of them and their buddies are getting richer and richer.

  3. Got a Grip

    Did you see the story (I saw it on dk and the dug around for it elsewhere) where Blackwater was in an accident with a Humvee full of soldiers, and they drew weapons on the soldiers, disarmed them, and made them lay on the ground until they got their vehicle extricated from the accident? What kind of a country are we living in that this is considered okay? I honestly don’t know what to say anymore except…IMPEACH!!!!!!

  4. nonnie9999

    gotta, i think i saw a title that referred to that, but i had to go to my online chat and didn’t read it. i did see srkpy’s diary about the u.n. investigating blackwater. it has left me speechless as well. i want nothing more than to see all the thugs behind bars.

  5. trm1

    I can only assume that none of you have ever been in Iraq and been in a situation like that. You cannot differentiate the good guys from the bad. These “traffic jams” are a favorite tactic for kidnapping Americans and we all know what comes next, beheading.
    Sometimes civilians get caught in the crossfire and it is truly unfortunate. Where is your anger every time the terrorist blow up a police station and kill hundreds of innocent people? Where is your outrage when you see one of our owns dead body drug through the street and desecrated?
    When they hit our own soil again, and they will, you will all be begging for more Blackwaters.
    Go ahead and give those “victims” 8 million each. That will buy plenty of ammo and explosives for them to kill more Americans.
    Your “compassion” is surely mis-directed.

  6. Friend of the court

    The US should not be in Iraq. I can not speak for any other poster but, the assumption that you make about me never having been in Iraq is correct. I do agree that the US will be attacked again, and hard. Blackwater will be the last thing I would wish we had more of, at that time. Since, Blackwater and others like them, will have been part of the cause. There was an old saying about, “shoot first and ask questions later”, now it seems to be shoot first and allow no questions to be asked. It is not hard to see who the “bad guys”, are.

  7. nonnie9999

    no, trm1, i have never been in the middle of a war. i guess in that way, i am like george bush and dick cheney. so much of what you say is so wrong, that it is hard to know where to begin. these people are supposed to be trained in figuring out who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. they are not getting paid the big bucks to massacre people just because they are afraid that they might be the bad guys.
    i wonder how forgiving you would be if it was your family who was killed. would you categorize it as truly unfortunate and then say, “oh well, these things happen!”? stop blaming the victims. these were innocent people and they were slaughtered. that our people are being killed as well does not make this okay.
    i will never be begging for more blackwaters. they are thugs. they think that they are crusaders (and the money is just icing on the cake, i guess), but they are just thugs with some kind of savior complex.
    you are worried about giving them money to compensate them for the deaths of their loved ones? you think that is going to be the problem that leads to more deaths of americans? do you honestly think killing more innocent people is going to placate them instead?
    enjoy your kool-aid.

  8. Got a Grip

    trm1, perhaps you didn’t actually read my comment. Blackwater ran into a Humvee full of U.S. American soldiers in full soldier dress with full military distinctive marks on the vehicle. They pointed their weapons at them, disarmed them and made them lay on the ground. There was no doubt who the bad guys were, it was Blackwater.

    The only begging I will be doing where Blackwater and their ilk is concerned is in having them disarmed, and then those responsible for killing the innocents thrown in jail where they belong.

    And you, sir, are an idiot. Now go away. Nothing to see here….

  9. trm1

    LOL, Fantastic. Don’t worry, us Patriotic American Soldiers will continue to do our best to defend your right to “think” the way you do.

    I say this in all honesty when I ask, why do you think that the DNC, Socialism, the ACLU, NannyStates and a liberal activist Supreme Court is whats best for this country? Please help me understand…

  10. trm1

    To Nonnie,

    “no, trm1, i have never been in the middle of a war. i guess in that way, i am like george bush and dick cheney.”

    Then how can you even imagine for one instant what happened in that brief moment???

    “so much of what you say is so wrong, that it is hard to know where to begin. these people are supposed to be trained in figuring out who are the good guys and who are the bad guys.”

    Again I say, you have never been surrounded by a mob of people, all angry and shouting. The enemy hides in the crowds of women and children and take pop shots at you. The next time you see Iraq footage on television, see if you can tell one from the other.

    “they are not getting paid the big bucks to massacre people just because they are afraid that they might be the bad guys.”

    Refer to above

    “i wonder how forgiving you would be if it was your family who was killed. would you categorize it as truly unfortunate and then say, “oh well, these things happen!”? stop blaming the victims. these were innocent people and they were slaughtered. that our people are being killed as well does not make this okay.”

    We fight overseas in hopes that we will never have to engage in our own neighborhoods.

    “i will never be begging for more blackwaters. they are thugs. they think that they are crusaders (and the money is just icing on the cake, i guess), but they are just thugs with some kind of savior complex.
    you are worried about giving them money to compensate them for the deaths of their loved ones? you think that is going to be the problem that leads to more deaths of americans? do you honestly think killing more innocent people is going to placate them instead?
    enjoy your kool-aid.”

    Yes you will, no they aren’t, no they don’t and violence is all they know and all they understand.

  11. nonnie9999

    trm1,
    if there is an armed criminal in a house filled with children, and the cops know that he is going to kill other people if he gets out of the house, is it okay to blow up the house in order to kill him? sorry, but you cannot kill a bunch of people just on the supposition that one of them might be bad.
    no, i cannot imagine what it is like to be in the shoes of the blackwater mercenaries. can you imagine what it is like to be an innocent person who is targeted because s/he might be guilty? i suppose you endorse killing lots of kids in the inner city because they look like they might be gang members.
    we have no good reason for being in iraq. i am sure that you disagree with that statement, and there is no use in trying to change your mind. the converse if probably true as well. you will never convince me that there was ever a good reason to invade iraq, and you will never convince me that blackwater is not just a bunch of legalized thugs.
    silly me, but i will always believe that treating people with kindness and respect works better than slaughtering their families.

  12. frBangladesh

    Hasan Jaber Salman said it well (CNN’s report): “Is this some kind of a show of force for them to flex their muscles?” he said. “Are they doing this to us, the victims, so they can advertise and promote their abilities through the Western media? … Is their mission to protect one person by killing 10 unarmed people? And if they are protecting two people, then they shoot 100 unarmed people. … Is this Vietnam? …

    “Enough, enough,” he said. “Enough of all that’s happening. God’s fury is coming. Enough of this. Enough.”

    Astonishing that some Americans can continue to rationalize what we are doing in Iraq with arguments based on “DNC, Socialism, the ACLU, NannyStates and a liberal activist Supreme Court” in our home grounds. I’ve lived overseas for 20 years. Perhaps it’s not required, but the best way to get along is to care about people and accept the risks that come with being alive. Every person down to the most squalid slum dweller sees his/her life as being valuable. This is what our constitution seeks to guarantee and the ACLU fights for. It isn’t enough to say America can do better — we need to do something entirely different, completely redefine our approach in relation to the world. Perhaps Obama or Gore can provide that after Bush is retired. Some say IMPEACH: I say ICE (impeach, convict and execute).

  13. nonnie9999

    thank you, frBangladesh!
    that was an excellent and articulate comment. when someone has no argument for the subject at hand, the response is to change the subject.
    you zeroed in on the crux of the problem. no person’s life is any more valuable than any other person’s. the average iraqi is no more dispensable than the average american.

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