They mean what they say….until they take it back

From the raw story:

Either former Bush officials are being pressured to backtrack, or recent flip-flops are just more evidence that they had no convictions in the first place.

In a story entitled Gonzales backtracks on support for CIA probe, The Washington Times‘ Ben Conery reports, “Former Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales said Thursday that his previous assertion that it was ‘legitimate to question and examine’ charges of CIA abuses of suspected terrorists did not mean he endorsed such an investigation.”

Original DVD cover

Anyone else think Don Corleone Deadeye Dick Cheney invited Little Abu and Tommy Boy to go on a hunting trip?

Speaking to the conservative-leaning Washington Times newspaper during a Tuesday radio broadcast, Gonzales said that the Bush administration “worked very hard to establish ground rules and parameters” of the torture program.

“[If] people go beyond that, I think it is legitimate to question and examine that conduct to ensure people are held accountable for their actions, even if it’s action in prosecuting the war on terror,” he added on Tuesday, as Raw Story noted.

At his blog The ‘Skeeter Bites Report’, former newspaper editor Skeeter Sanders wrote, “Gonzales’ comments marked a dramatic reversal from remarks the former attorney general made in his earlier interview in Lubbock, Texas with the AP, in which he said that any such investigation ‘could discourage’ CIA operatives from ‘engaging in conduct that even comes close’ to department guidelines.”

“Gonzales said at the time that he had talked to CIA attorneys who had heard from the spy agency’s operatives,” Sanders added. “‘They’re very, very concerned about the legal liability and legal exposure,’ he told the AP. ‘And that’s the danger with launching some kind of investigation. But, again, this is a decision that’s got to be made by the current attorney general.’”


Author and one-time Nixon White House counsel John Dean believes that former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge may have been “pressured” to back down from the assertion in his new book that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Attorney General John Ashcroft pressed him to raise the terrorism threat level just before the 2004 election for political reasons.

“He did indeed imply a rather serious criminal charge if this conduct indeed had been undertaken,” Dean told MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann on Wednesday. “So I think there’s a lot of reasons he probably has backed off, and political pressure from the Bush clan is probably part of the reason.”

Ridge attempted to explain to MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday that he wondered at the time if the motive might be political, but “at the end of the day” he concluded that “politics wasn’t involved.” He also insisted that both the jacket copy and the publisher’s website misrepresent what is actually in his book.


“I would suspect the fact that Rumsfeld and Ashcroft came out and hit him pretty hard has affected his thinking on this whole matter,” Dean added with a chuckle. “He doesn’t seem as clear on what he wrote now that they’ve spoken out on the issue.”

“It’s difficult for me to believe that Ridge was not sent this copy and did not approve it before it went on the jacket,” Dean added.


When Olbermann asked whether Ridge should have been aware that the statements in his book amounted to claims of a criminal visolation, Dean pointed out that Ridge is a former US Attorney, and that “theoretically, he would know about Title 18 371, which is the conspiracy to defraud the government by abusing or misusing its agencies for, in this instance, political purposes.”

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From Talking Points Memo:

Remember how Alberto Gonzales came out the other day and said he supports Eric Holder’s decision to investigate torture, as long as the probe is limited to CIA personnel who exceeded the lawyers’ legal guidance?

Well it looks like even that qualified position was too much for torture supporters on the right. Because now Gonzo has crawled back to the Washington Times to say that, actually, he didn’t really mean it.

“Contrary to press reporting and based on the information that’s available to me,” he told the paper, “I don’t support the investigation by the department because this is a matter that has already been reviewed thoroughly and because I believe that another investigation is going to harm our intelligence gathering capabilities and that’s a concern that’s shared by career intelligence officials and so for those reasons I respectfully disagree with the decision.”


Gonzales’ volte-face on the issue echoes that of his Bush administration colleague Tom Ridge on the question of whether the Bushies played politics with the terror alerts. In excerpts from his book reported recently, Ridge asserted that they had. But — presumably under pressure from fellow Republicans — Ridge this week backtracked on the claim.

As for Gonzo, he spent a portion of the rest of the interview twisting himself into knots to explain why his new position isn’t really a contradiction of his old one.

And to think, this is the man who used to be the country’s top prosecutor.


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20 responses to “They mean what they say….until they take it back

  1. jeb

    Listening to these guys is akin to the bed spins I experienced as a teenager when I had a few too many. That was probably a more pleasant experience though.

  2. Motion Sickness ensues when they talk.. from all the spinning and twisting of their tales.. lol

    You never know which end is up or which way it will fall when they finish and they tell the story the next time.

  3. Dusty

    Call me negative..but I always figured both those fuckwits would backtrack.

    Ridge had the nads on Rachel’s show to attempt to discredit his OWN words. I almost choked when I saw that jackass getting whiplash.

    Fredo..well, I always figured he must of been on a different plane than the rest of us..I couldn’t believe he came out FOR the investigation. I awaited the retraction and I wasn’t disappointed.

    Losers. Reminds of of the reichwingers that spoke ill of RushBo then recanted.

    Love the graphic Non! You so rock woman. 😉

    • i think the irony is so sweet. they tried so desperately to curtail the speech of ordinary citizens and make sure that they lived in fear. now, they’re the ones who can’t speak freely, and they live in fear of the thugs in the chimpy administration (not to mention fear of prosecution). it’s almost shakespearean.

  4. My Lying-sack-of-shit-o-meter is in the red zone.
    Now I understand why Ronny Reagan is held in such high esteem…. He did not recall what he knew or if or when he knew it.

    • i bet that meter’s needle is almost worn out. maybe the media shouldn’t report anything that anyone from the chimpy administration has to say until the retraction has been made. 🙄

  5. Jenn/jlms qkw

    wowsa, tommy boy is looking like a rather chubby dick clark these days. hangin’ with darth and w must not have been good for him.

    missing you!

    the world is crazy.

  6. For a big snake, Ridge slithers around truth as skillfully as anyone; that’s why he stayed through two commercial breaks on Rachel Maddow. But little lizard Gonzalez is clumsy and stupid; not even in the same league.
    (Love that Ridge bling, nonnie 😉

    • so glad you like the bling, mh. i made it custom for tommy boy. i’m thinking of mass producing them. they’ll be like mood rings. the more scared you get, the brighter the colors.

  7. All that walking back is sure to increase the American fitness level.


    • just think, darkblack, if we can get them all to walk backwards really, really fast, then we can go back in time like superman did when he flew opposite the earth’s orbit. then they can screw everything up all over again! 🙂

  8. It is important to remember that all through the Bush years, no-one in the Bush cabinet or the Bush Dept. of Justice or the Bush Dept of Homeland Security (tag lie – “Preserving Our Freedoms”) or the Bush CIA ever did anything wrong.

    Hence the absolute requirement that there should be no investigations of anything that took place during the few short years that Chimpy was in charge.

    To have investigations would only serve to place an intolerable burden on all the families of those who never did anything wrong, and would be both an intolerable thing and a wrong thing.

    (Nonnie, please check over at the other blog.)

    • Friend of the court

      what other blog? nobody ever tells me nothing.

      • 😆 don’t worry about it, fotc. you aren’t missing anything. it’s just a little blog to take care of raisin business (which 99 times out of 100, it’s me asking him how to do something, because i am usually totally useless when it comes to admin stuff). we don’t want to bore anyone over here.

    • you’re right, mighty mikk0mouse. if there were investigations, the investigators will have to apologize to those being investigate and their families, just like harry whittington had to apologize to deadeye dick for rightly shooting him in the face.