Betsy and the Bubbleheads

From TALKING POINTS MEMO:

In a heated and sometimes vitriolic debate Monday night, Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) repeatedly called out former Lt. Gov. Betsy McCaughey for lying about health care reform. He said debating her was like “debating a pyromaniac in a straw man factory,” prompting intense and immediate reaction from the audience.

“Debate like a man!” hollered one bespectacled, middle-aged man. Another quieted the ensuing shouts with, “This is his speaking time, not yours!”

Weiner and McCaughey arguably represent the furthest ends of the health care reform spectrum. Weiner is a progressive Congressman who wants a single-payer, government run health care system. McCaughey, who recently posited that reform may lead to government-mandated euthanasia, helped kill the Clintons’ health care plan in the 90s.


Original DVD cover

Betsy Bubblegum and some of her gal pals: Michele Batshit Bachmann, Virginia Gummint’ll Kill Ya Foxx, Ginny Drop Dead Brown-Waite, and Princess Sarah Death Panel Palin

The “Lincoln-Douglas-style debate,” hosted by Democratic Leadership for the 21st Century and held at the NYU Medical Center, lasted nearly two hours. For much of that, the pair seemed engaged in two entirely different debates.

Weiner argued that the only way to truly fix American health care, both slowing the growth of health care spending and increasing coverage, is to institute a single-payer, government-run plan.

McCaughey said slowing the growth of health care spending is itself a wrong-headed, dangerous goal that will end in lower quality care and unemployed doctors.

And besides, who needs it?

“Americans spend more on health care because they can afford more,” she said.

After the two gave their opening statements, the moderator, Politico’s Ben Smith, asked questions, including one near-grilling of McCaughey on whether there’s any place to save money in health care.

“Government controls are a blunt instrument,” she began.

“But is there another way to do it?” Smith cut in.

“Let me finish,” she said. After more dodging, an audience member shouted, “Answer the question!”

“We can encourage people to lead healthier lifestyles,” she said.

But that libertarianism doesn’t extend to her pet cause. McCaughey is the founder of the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths, and Smith asked if she would support government controls there, in the form of incentives for hospitals that follow guidelines for preventing infection, and penalties for those who don’t.

Her committee “fully supports” that sort of government intervention, she said. “I’m in favor of rewarding hospitals” for following the rules. And penalties for not doing so? The punishment will be “forcing them to treat infections without being reimbursed.”

Weiner was incredulous. That’s what we’re trying to do, he said.

Weiner had opened by trying to discredit McCaughey before she even got started.

Elements of the health care debate “have just been bad,” Weiner said in his opening remarks. “Unfortunately, the woman I’m debating tonight is part of that.”

…snip…

“She points out page numbers from a House bill, he said, but “the page numbers have nothing to do with what she talks about.”

True to form, McCaughey did often cite page numbers, ignoring Weiner’s protests she was reading the wrong bill. (Her giant binder, he said, had an old version of the bill. The Energy and Commerce Committee voted on a different text, the chairman’s mark.)

McCaughey accused her opponent of not working for the people of New York, of trying to “snatch away the purses from little old ladies.” At one point she snatched away his microphone, demanding that he answer a question.

…snip…

Weiner said the underlying problem in the health care debate, the million dollar question, is, “How do we contain the cost spiral we’re on now? … It’s unsustainable.”

McCaughey argued that American health care is expensive because it’s the best in the world. “We earn more, and we can afford more,” she said.

“Is this sustainable?” she asked. “Yes.” If we try to lower spending, she said, it “would be a body blow to New York’s health care workers, hospitals and patients.”

McCaughey thinks the current bills go too far and that Congress should slow down, taking maybe all four years of Obama’s presidency to pass reform. Weiner, on the other hand, doesn’t believe the public option is strong enough — and has no respect for the Senate Finance Committee bill.

(Watch the whole debate at the TPM link above)

From Jason Linkins at THE HUFFINGTON POST:

[Betsy McCaughey] ended up on Dylan Ratigan’s Morning Meeting with Representative Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.). There was a brief, mad moment where I thought that this might end well, but it didn’t.

I’m getting used to the tactics McCaughey deploys in situations like this: heavy-duty pretense that she supports health care reform, the Palin-esque answer-a-question-with-an-answer-to-a-question-of-her-liking technique, the ability to quickly provide information and opinion that’s completely beside the point, et cetera. Unfortunately, Ratigan wanted to have a discussion on health care competition and cost containment, and that didn’t dovetail too well with what McCaughey prefers to do in such a debate: set aside all substantive issues so that she can fearmonger about seniors being killed by the government.

McCaughey did her best, though, defaulting to the secondary position of insisting that there wasn’t enough tort reform in the bill. Ratigan was quick to point out that as a cost-containment measure, tort reform would be a spectacularly insignificant one: “Why would you start with tort reform when you have an aniti-trust exemption for insurance companies?” Weiner attempted to inject actual facts, noting that the CBO determined that eliminating 30 percent of all tort claims would yield marginal savings of .04 percent, because most of the states already cap tort claims.

And so, McCaughey just unleashed her SENIOR CITIZEN HEALTH CARE APOCALYPSE nonsense, accusing Weiner of being ignorant and telling Ratigan that he wasn’t a “fair moderator,” to which Ratigan replied, “Well, you’re not a fair answerer.” Ratigan gamely attempted to get McCaughey to reconcile how she’d continue to provide the current level of unsustainable funding to Medicare without updating the system to address its inefficiencies, to no avail.

(Watch poor Betsy Bubblegum being “victimized” at the HuffPo link above. It’s hilarious!)

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15 responses to “Betsy and the Bubbleheads

  1. Ugh, Betsy McGagMe! She says so many things that hurt my head, heart, and stomach, that I don’t have time to decide which thing that comes out of her mouth bothers the most. Suffice to say that I watched some of her performance on Dylan Ratigan’s show and thought she deserved everything she got. True, Dylan wasn’t “fair” but lies don’t deserve equal treatment with the truth.

    • betsy wetsy is such an ingenuous smarmy shrew. she deserves to be smacked down at every opportunity. you’d think she’d be embarrassed to even show her face after she made a fool of herself on the daily show, but it seems that betsy wetsy has no shame whatsoever.

      • writechic

        Great image! Captures the plastic deep down. πŸ˜‰

        (Ratigan ate Betsy for lunch. He was all zero tolerance bullshit. That’s not an easy thing to do live, but she made it a cakewalk for him.)

        • it was a thing of beauty! i don’t think people respond well to the whole ‘i’m a victim’ line. she’s victimized herself by being a lying bitch. it’s not the other person’s fault for pointing that out.

  2. helenwheels

    I absolutely LOVE the poster! Incredible, nonnie. And the names…. LOL! Perfect.

    I don’t even know why anyone allows that idiot on TV. All that spinning must make her dizzy.

    Yeah you’d think after being humiliated on the Daily Show she’d get some sense. Very weird, she must be paid a lot to get the lies out there.

    • thanks helen!

      i think they allow her on tv, because she’s such a train wreck. the kool-aid drinkers believe everything that comes out of her mouth, the rethugs use her as a trial balloon to see how far they can push the batshit crazy envelope, and the dems will tune in to watch her implode.

      i don’t think she has the humiliation gene. she thinks she’s all that, and any evidence to the contrary is just a result of everyone being jealous of her. what a piece of work. πŸ™„

  3. jacksmith

    CONGRATULATIONS! President Obama on your Nobel Prize. It’s well deserved πŸ™‚

    Why A Strong Public Option Is Essential – By jacksmith – Working Class

    Robert Reich explains the pubic option: http://bit.ly/dDYSJ

    Hollywood Supports The Public Option πŸ™‚ http://bit.ly/3XLwPi

    It’s not just because more than two thirds of the American people want a single payer health care system. And if they cant have a single payer system 77% of all Americans want a strong government-run public option on day one (86% of democrats, 75% of independents, and 72% republicans). Basically everyone.

    It’s not just because according to a new AARP POLL: 86 percent of seniors want universal healthcare security for All, including 93% of Democrats, 87% of Independents, and 78% of Republicans. With 79% of seniors supporting creating a new strong Government-run public option plan, available immediately. Including 89% of Democrats, 80% of Independents, and 61% of Republicans, STUNNING!!

    It’s not just because it will lower cost. Because a strong public option will dramatically lower cost for everyone. And dramatically improved the quality of care everyone receives in America and around the World. Rich, middle class, and poor a like.

    It’s not just because it will save trillions of dollars and prevent the needless deaths of millions more of YOU, caused by a rush to profit by the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!

    It’s not just because every expert in every field, including economist, and Nobel laureates all agree that free market based healthcare systems don’t work. Never have and never will. The US has the only truly free market based healthcare system in the World. And as you all know now, IT IS A DISASTER!

    It’s not just because providing or denying medically necessary care for profit motivations is wrong. Because it is WRONG! It’s professionally, ethically, and morally REPUGNANT!, Animalistic, VILE and EVIL.

    THE REASON THE PUBLIC OPTION IS ESSENTIAL:

    The public option is ESSENTIAL because over 200 million of you are trapped in the forest of the wolves. Which is the forest of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! With no way out except through needless inhumane suffering, and DEATH. While the wolves tear at your flesh, and rip you limb from lib. Then feast on your lifeless bodies like a dead carcase for transplant parts.

    At the most vulnerable times of your lives (when you were sick and hurting), millions of you have had to fight and loose cruel, but heroic battles. Fighting against the big guns of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! in the forest of the wolves. All because you have no place else to go. You have no other CHOICE!

    But the PUBLIC OPTION will give you someplace safe to go. And it will give us someplace safe to take you. The public option will be your refugium (your refuge). Where the wolves cannot get at you when your down, hurting, and vulnerable. Where everyone who needs it can find rest, security, comfort and the care they need. Protected by the BIG GUNS of We The People Of The United States. THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE AND COUNTRY ON EARTH.

    This is why it is so critical that we do not lead another 50 million vulnerable, uninsured Americans into the forest of the wolves, without the protections of a Strong Government-run MEDICARE like public option. We The People Of The United States MUST NOT LET THAT HAPPEN to any more of our fellow Americans. If healthcare reform does not contain a strong MEDICARE like public option on day one. YOU MUST! KILL IT. Or you will do far more harm than good. And millions more will die needlessly. Rich, middle class, and poor a like.

    To those who would continue to obstruct good and true healthcare reform for the American people, and who seek to trap millions more vulnerable Americans in the forest of the wolves. We will continue to fight you. We are prepared to wage all out war against you, and will eagerly DESTROY! you. Time…is…UP! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! No Co-op’s! No Triggers! NO INDIVIDUAL MANDATES! without a Strong MEDICARE like public option on day one.

    Healthcare reform can be the GREATEST! Accomplishment of our time and century. A time when future generations may say of us, that we were all, AMERICAS GREATEST GENERATIONS.

    BUT WE MUST ACT!

    I therefore call on all my fellow Americans and the peoples of the World. To join us in this fight so that we may finish becoming the better America that we aspire to be for everyone.

    SPREAD THE WORD!

    I have been privileged to be witness as many of you fought, and struggled to take your first breath, and your last breath on this earth. Rich, middle class, and poor a like. Life is precious.

    Whatever the cost. WE! MUST SUCCEED.

    God Bless You My Fellow Human Beings

    jacksmith – Working Class

    ATTENTION!! Congress Has The Votes Needed To Pass A Public Option – TODAY http://bit.ly/TCq7O

    Things You Can Do To Help NOW! http://www.everydaycitizen.com/2009/09/tired_of_watching_people_die_n.html

    A majority of voters would rather have a Democrats only bill with a Public Option. Than a bipartisan bill without a Public Option.

    A state based insurance plan is NOT!! a Public Option. Nor is it a Strong, National, Medicare like Public Option.

    No Triggers! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-rosenbaum/a-trigger-for-the-public_b_277910.html

    Triggers http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/weve-seen-these-triggers_b_283583.html

    Krugman on heathcare (http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/)

    Senator Bernie Sanders on healthcare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&feature=player_embedded)

    John Garamendi on the Public Option and the Grassroots: http://bit.ly/TJMty

    Howard Dean on the Public Option http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SKfW2dUnow&feature=player_embedded

    We’re Number 37! in quality of health care http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4&feature=player_embedded

    Twitter search (#welovethenhs #NHS #hc09 #hcr #healthcar #obama #p2 #topprog #) Check it out.

  4. betsy mccrackpot ross (she was ross at one time – and not that Betsy Ross) – was lt gov for like 2 seconds here in NY

    she is a rich elitist douchette that has zero conception of what life would be like if she had to pay a bill

    • she’s a joke. i hope she continues to make a complete fool of herself publicly. the funniest thing is that she’s being used as a tool by the rethug party. they funnel their crap through her to see what will fly. she’s so arrogant, she probably thinks they are her friends.

  5. Possibly your best poster yet!

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