You Got a Beef, Stew….I mean, Stupak?

From National Review:

Sitting in an airport, on his way home to Michigan, Rep. Bart Stupak, a pro-life Democrat, is chagrined. “They’re ignoring me,” he says, in a phone interview with National Review Online. “That’s their strategy now. The House Democratic leaders think they have the votes to pass the Senate’s health-care bill without us. At this point, there is no doubt that they’ve been able to peel off one or two of my twelve. And even if they don’t have the votes, it’s been made clear to us that they won’t insert our language on the abortion issue.”

According to Stupak, that group of twelve pro-life House Democrats — the “Stupak dozen” — has privately agreed for months to vote ‘no’ on the Senate’s health-care bill if federal funding for abortion is included in the final legislative language. Now, in the debate’s final hours, Stupak says the other eleven are coming under “enormous” political pressure from both the White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.). “I am a definite ‘no’ vote,” he says. “I didn’t cave. The others are having both of their arms twisted, and we’re all getting pounded by our traditional Democratic supporters, like unions.”

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Stupak notes that his negotiations with House Democratic leaders in recent days have been revealing. “I really believe that the Democratic leadership is simply unwilling to change its stance,” he says. “Their position says that women, especially those without means available, should have their abortions covered.” The arguments they have made to him in recent deliberations, he adds, “are a pretty sad commentary on the state of the Democratic party.”

What are Democratic leaders saying? “If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. That’s one of the arguments I’ve been hearing,” Stupak says.


If Obamacare passes, Stupak says, it could signal the end of any meaningful role for pro-life Democrats within their own party. “It would be very, very hard for someone who is a right-to-life Democrat to run for office,” he says. “I won’t leave the party. I’m more comfortable here and still believe in a role within it for the right-to-life cause, but this bill will make being a pro-life Democrat much more difficult. They don’t even want to debate this issue. We’ll probably have to wait until the Republicans take back the majority to fix this.”

“Throughout this debate, even when the House leaders have acknowledged us, it’s always been in a backhanded way,” he laments.


And the politics of the issue are pretty rough. “This has really reached an unhealthy stage,” Stupak says. “People are threatening ethics complaints on me. On the left, they’re really stepping it up. Every day, from Rachel Maddow to the Daily Kos, it keeps coming. Does it bother me? Sure. Does it change my position? No.”


TPM’s Brian Beutler reports from Capitol Hill that House Democrats are moving forward on health care with or without prolife Rep. Bart Stupak and the dozen lawmakers he might get to attempt to block the bill.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told reporters this morning that Democrats “have not discussed a third way” and that when he spoke with Stupak (D-MI) about the abortion provisions he wants in the measure, “I made it clear that I wasn’t negotiating.”

“We don’t want to go without their votes, but we do want to forge ahead, and as you know Mr. Stupak has made it very very clear that he’s very strongly in favor of achieving health care in this Congress. And I think that a lot of his colleagues feel the same way,” Hoyer said.

The majority leader said that as Congress nears a final vote it’s clear the abortion provisions Stupak wants inserted into the health care legislation can’t be addressed in the budget reconciliation bill that House Democrats need to pass.


Last night on MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow show, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she’s confident Stupak won’t try to sink the bill.

“And those who want the bill to fail hijack the good intentions of others who have concerns about the federal funding of abortion,” she said.


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24 responses to “You Got a Beef, Stew….I mean, Stupak?

  1. What a sanctimonious phony. I emailed the DCCC to say that if Stupid succeeded in killing the bill, I wouldn’t send them a dime until he was out of Congress.

    • hey k!

      welcome to the raisin! 😀 i see your comments at other blogs all the time, and they’re always enlightening. what a nice surprise to see you over here. i have to admit, though, that i was a bit upset at first. i though you meant i’m a sanctimonious phony, and i wondered how my secret got out. 😉

      hope you’ll visit again!

  2. ” On the left, they’re really stepping it up. Every day, from Rachel Maddow to the Daily Kos, it keeps coming. Does it bother me? Sure. Does it change my position? No.”

    Thank you for the encouragement, Brat. As for our goals, we don’t want you to change–we want you OUT! Go, Connie Saltonstall!

    • he’s got that air of superiority that some religious people get when they think they’re right and everyone else is wrong. as a catholic, i wonder how he deals with the fact that his son committed suicide. he says that accutane contributed to it (according to wiki). when i watch him and hear him speak, he always seems to me that there’s something missing in him. there’s something that’s just not right. i wonder if the death of his son sent him even further into the arms of his catholicism, and he just left logic behind. i respect his anti-abortion views. i don’t agree, but i don’t disrespect people who hold that view. however, i don’t respect him trying to force his opinion onto everyone else through the law.

  3. Ron

    You gotta love Stew-pud and Lie-berman. Think how boring the news would be if all we had to to laugh about were Cheney(s), Limburger, Beck, Hannity, Bachmann, Ensign, almost all South Carolina politicians, Fakes News….you get the picture.

    • hello ron,

      welcome to the raisin! 😀

      😆 you’re correct. what would we joke about? i guess as long as south carolina, texas, glenn blechhh, rushbo, et al are around, we’ll always have something to laugh at.

  4. He’s not a pro life democrat, he’s anti choice, and HE wants to make the choice FOR women!

    I’m glad his personal stance is not the end all of health care for the entire country going ahead.

    • i don’t think men should be allowed to vote for or against any law that affects only women. we can make a deal–we’ll decide who controls our reproductive lives, and we’ll let men decide how e.d. meds are dispensed.

      • Right on Nonnie~ these anti choice zealots often are the first ones to vote down the supporting items- like the SCHIP children’s health care funding, or welfare, or unemployment & COBRA assistance.

        Just have the babies, no need to make sure their needs are covered after they are born.

        If men had babies- birthed them and cared for them, they would change their tune faster than you could say “cesarian section”.

        • got that right! how would men feel if women started dictating (no pun intended) how and where vasectomies can be performed? i think numbing agents are just a waste of money. macho conservative men should be able to handle any discomfort by biting an nra bullet.

  5. He sure likes the TV cameras on him. The Hyde amendment isn’t good enough? Next he will have rules about traveling to clinics on roads paved with fed money.

  6. Hey, Don’t break a vow, man.

    It must be nice to have one’s spiritual guides counsel breaking one’s own religious commandments in order to seize and retain power…really sells the holy concept, eh Nonnie?


    • Ron

      Their god is power. The archangels of their god are campaign contributions, fame, domination of current events no matter how unhealthy for the nation or their constituents, and self will. There is a difference between religion and spirituality, and they use religion as a hammer. Their god (or higher power, whatever you prefer) are themselves. They worship their self aggrandizing egos.

      • you’re absolutely right, ron. some, like beef stew-pak delude themselves into thinking that their quest for power is really some righteous quest. they wrap themselves in their bibles and flags, but they don’t really get what either really represents.

    • i wonder if the priest gives little bart an extra cookie during communion. i saw your bart pic when you posted it (i visit every day), and i was surprised at how natural he looked. 😉

  7. we need a third party – the stupid asshole party of stupak, lieberman, blanche lincoln, boner etc….

    • If we had a third party of stupid assholes, every stupid asshole in the country would vote for them, which means our country would be governed by stupid assholes, which puts us back to where we already are.

      • I dunno, KZ, even stupid assholes need to have a party once in awhile. So let the Tea Party step up and become the Stupid Asshole Party.

        Maybe if we knew just how many stupid assholes we’ve enfranchised with the power of citizenship, we’d stop f’n around with health care and education reform before they turn the whole country into stupid-ass hole.

        • i like the idea of the stupid asshole party, if only so that they would all run as SAPs, and we can all laugh at how stupid they are that they don’t notice. sort of like the tea party dubbing themselves teabaggers. 😆

  8. Call me crazy, but I support health care reform BECAUSE I’m pro-life.

    Of course, that’s partly because I recognize the truth in the slogan Sojourners made popular for a while … “Life doesn’t end at birth.”

    • you’re crazy.

      i don’t really think so, but i take orders really well. those who are voting against health care reform because they say they are pro-life, or even if they say they’re voting against it, because it doesn’t go far enough, are putting their own self-righteousness ahead of people’s lives.

      • You know, that’s a good point.

        I hope that Rep. Kucinich comes around. I understand wanting a better bill … but he’s not going to get it this go-round.

        But if we can pass this one, then people see that we didn’t turn into Nazi Germany and there are no “death panels,” then we can finish the job.

        If we don’t pass anything, though, then we don’t get anywhere.

        He might be doing it for a better reason, but he winds up being an ally of the Republicans.

        The same thing for Stupak. There is a LOT of noise from the anti-abortion side of life about how we should defeat Stupak so that we kill the bill. I wish that there was a lot of chance that Stupak would come around and see that he’s putting lives in peril.

        • exactly! it’s a crappy bill, but it gets a foot in the door (even if we have to prop it open with the 2000 pages it’s printed on). if this doesn’t pass, you can kiss health care reform goodbye. not passing it because it’s not perfect is like not treating a patient who’s bleeding profusely, because you don’t think the stitches will be pretty enough.