The State of Virginia

From POST POLITICS at The Washington Post:

It is one of Washington’s enduring mysteries.

No, it isn’t.

Nearly two decades after Anita Hill accused Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment during his fractious Supreme Court confirmation hearing, it remains unclear who was lying.

No, it doesn’t.  It’s very clear that Clarence Thomas is a big stinking liar.

Now, Virginia Thomas, the justice’s wife, has rekindled the controversy by leaving a voice mail message at Hill’s Brandeis University office seeking an apology.

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“Good morning Anita Hill, it’s Ginni Thomas,” said the message left this month, according to a transcript provided by ABC News. “I just want to reach across the airwaves and the years and ask you to consider something. I would love you to consider an apology sometimes and some full explanation of why you did what you did with my husband.”

“I certainly thought the call was inappropriate,” Hill, who worked for Clarence Thomas at the Department of Education and the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commissions, said in a statement released by Brandeis, where she is a professor.

“I have no intention of apologizing because I testified truthfully about my experience and I stand by that testimony,” she added.


In her Senate testimony, Hill said that Thomas would make sexual comments to her at work, including references to scenes in hard-core pornographic films. Thomas angrily denied the allegations, memorably saying they amounted to a “high-tech lynching.”

But Lillian McEwen, a former Senate Judiciary Committee lawyer who said she dated Clarence Thomas from 1979 through the mid-1980s, told The Washington Post in an interview that Hill’s long-ago description of Thomas’s behavior resonated with her.


“The Clarence I know was certainly capable not only of doing the things that Anita Hill said he did, but it would be totally consistent with the way he lived his personal life then,” said McEwen[…].


[…] Thomas, a longtime conservative activist who now heads Liberty Central, a nonprofit group aimed at stopping what she calls the “power grabbing” of the Obama administration, has been consistent in her criticism of Hill.

In an interview she and her husband did with People Magazine just before Thomas ascended to the high court, she said of Hill: “In my heart I always believed she was probably someone in love with my husband who never got what she wanted.”

Yeah, because he’s such a charming hunk.

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From The Caucus at The New York Times:

Who’s Sorry Now?

It’s Virginia Thomas, not Anita Hill, who is apologizing – for the public appearances she has been canceling since the news broke Tuesday that she recently asked Ms. Hill to apologize for accusing Ms. Thomas’s husband, Justice Clarence Thomas, of sexual harassment during his Senate confirmation battle nearly 20 years ago.

Ms. Thomas, who has been tirelessly promoting her pro-Tea Party conservative advocacy group, Liberty Central, in coast-to-coast travels and television appearances, backed out of a Wednesday morning interview on NPR that had been scheduled a week ago, the public radio network said. Her publicist cited a “scheduling conflict.”

Hours later came word from the conservative Family Research Council that Ms. Thomas would not participate Wednesday evening on a Web cast with its president, Tony Perkins, that the group had been advertising as late as mid-afternoon.  A spokesman said that both she and the group agreed her appearance would distract from the show’s subject – President Obama and taxes. While the program was titled “The Taxman Cometh:  Stopping the Obama Tax Hikes,” at issue are the Bush tax cuts, which expire by law on Dec. 31 and which President Obama would extend except for income above $250,000 for couples.


Ms. Thomas, 53, known as Ginni, was a familiar conservative advocate in Washington even before she met her husband and married him 23 years ago. But her formation of Liberty Central has taken that political activism to a level previously unknown for the spouse of a Supreme Court justice.

While many scholars of legal ethics say Ms. Thomas should not be constrained from political advocacy because of her marriage, they say her solicitation and acceptance of at least two big contributions — $500,000 and $50,000 in late 2009, from donors whose identity do not have to be disclosed publicly — raises questions of potential conflicts of interest if the donors ever have cases before the Supreme Court.


The New York Times published an article about Ms. Thomas and Liberty Central on its Web site on Friday night, Oct. 8, and then in the next day’s newspaper. It was on that Saturday, at 7:31 a.m., that Ms. Thomas left a message on Ms. Hill’s office phone at Brandeis University.


Ms. Hill, unsure whether the message was a prank, said she asked police at Brandeis, University, where she is a professor, to turn it over to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

My take?  Not that anyone asked, but here it is.  I think ol’ Ginni is far too politically savvy to just pick up the phone out of the blue and blabber.  She would carefully plan and practice exactly what to say.  It doesn’t sound like her message was particularly thought out or practiced, so I’m wondering if ol’ Ginni got drunk or took too much Valium and picked up the phone.  One thing I haven’t seen or heard anyone discuss is the wording of her message.  According to all reports, she said:

I would love you to consider an apology sometimes and some full explanation of why you did what you did with my husband.

Now, if she was talking about the testimony, wouldn’t she say what you did to my husband?  i think with is a strange preposition for ol’ Ginny to go with.  Maybe ol’ Ginni found out that ol’ ugly Clarence got his dinky stinky with women other than herself during their marriage, got a bit smashed, and wanted to know if Anita Hill had taste bad enough to actually do the nasty with ol’ Clarence. Sorry about that, I can’t seem to keep anything down. Ol’ Ginni couldn’t have figured that Professor Hill would contact campus security and that they would, in turn, contact the FBI, so I don’t buy that ol’ Ginni did it for publicity purposes or as a distraction from anything else. If that had been the case, she would not have canceled her appearances. Just my 2¢, for what it’s worth.


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25 responses to “The State of Virginia

  1. I need an “i love this” button. 😀

    Good ol’ Clarence Thomas and his pubes on the coke prank. That fucking guy. So misunderstood.

    • i couldn’t decide which i liked better, so i made them both.

      • Nonnie, your posters for this entry, especially the top one, are simply amazing. I love the seamlessness of your Photoshopping–you are an amazing artist.
        Ginni made that call to cause a media frenzy. It was a calculated move to distract the media from covering the conflict of interest caused by her involvement in an ultra right teabagging organization. Period.
        Was it a clumsy publicity stunt? Yes.
        Did it work? Yes.

        • awww, thanks zippy! 🙂

          my new specialty is moving eyeballs. anita was looking in the opposite direction, so i had to move her eyes. i’ve had to do that a lot with other pix, and it’s fun. i have a bunch of pix of people with alternate eyes.

          i still think ginni was drunk or stoned. she didn’t know hill would call security, security would call the feds, and the story would become public knowledge. ginni knows anita hill is a private person, so why would she pick that way of getting publicity. she could have called faux news and told them she wanted to ask for a public apology. she could have even just done that at one of her teabagger appearances. there were all kinds of ways for her to get media attention, and this way was the most unlikely.

          she knows there’s no way to distract from a story of a supreme court justice’s wife advocating so publicly for one side. she and her people haven’t been trashing the times for their story, and it wasn’t getting much attention until now, so i don’t buy the distraction theory.

          here’s my theory–maybe she got wind that another woman, lillian mcewen has written a book that supports anita hill’s version of events. she might have been thinking about all the women ol’ clarence chased over the years, and she popped a few valium and washed them down with some scotch. she figured that, if she could get anita hill to publicly apologize, it might take some of the sting out of what mcewen wrote. too bad for ol’ ginni that the whole thing backfired on her drunken ass, because now there’s renewed interest in the story, and mcewen’s book will be more sought after, both by publishers and readers. oh, poetic justice, how i love you! ♥

  2. jean-philippe

    Amazing that even if no one was able to get to the bottom of this, Clarence has been (barely) confirmed to the SCOTUS. Not that being very proud of your genitals makes of someone a bad judge (or a bad president in the 90’s), but this wasn’t an audition to find the next cranky judge on daytime TV…

    • i wonder what might have happened if there wasn’t the distraction of all this going on. maybe he wouldn’t have been confirmed. we’ll never know.

      • During the confirmation hearings, the truth was never determined. Someone was lying.
        As such, out of an abundance of caution, Thomas should never have been confirmed.
        Now we are saddled with an incurious slob who simply sits there, waits out the debate, and rubber stamp whatever his GOP masters tell him to.
        The only bright side is that he’s a fat slob whose health cannot be that good. I think a major cardial infarction would solve everything. I don’t wish him dead, just incapacitated enough to have to step down and allow Obama to appoint another highly qualified lesbian.

        • i hope he has to quit to take care of his unhinged wife. the two of them can live miserably ever after. did you see the story about him on 60 minutes a couple of years ago? i’ve never seen such a bitter angry man. he and his evil-ass wife deserve each other.

  3. GreenApples

    “Yeah, because he’s such a charming hunk, you cracked me up with that line! LOL

    I’m with your theory. There’s a big difference between “to” and ‘with”.

    • thanks, apples. at first, i thought that maybe i was parsing a bit too much, but you know as well as i do that women always say exactly what they mean when they’re talking to other women about their men. she meant with, not to, and that says to me that she’s worried that ol’ clarence has been getting his dinky stinky with other women.

  4. even the senators who trashed Hill knew she was telling the truth – they were protecting one of their own (Danforth in this case)

    not only did Hill get humiliated (but she knows how to be classy) – we got a real piece of shit with Thomas

    you are right nonnie – teabagger Ginny Thomas did this knowing full well the shitstorm – she had an ulterior motive

    • of course they knew she was telling the truth. hill might have been humiliated in the short term, but i think she’s the one who came out with her integrity intact.

      i didn’t say ginni expected the shitstorm. instead, i said the exact opposite. that’s why i question what the point of calling was. she didn’t know hill would call security and that they would call the fbi. when you add that she’s suddenly canceled her appearances, i think drugs or alcohol might have been what all this was about.

      • Leading hypothesis on LiveJournal–drunk calling.

        • that’s what i’m going with for now. i think that’s why we haven’t heard the actual call. she might have been slurring her words, and she might have canceled her appearances so she can go to rehab. one reason i suspect that is that she and her people have not yet trashed the paper for reporting the call. is she afraid to do so, because they might play the audio? did she make a deal with them that she won’t trash them if they won’t play it and won’t characterize it as drunken banter? i don’t think the fbi would restrict anyone from playing it, as there’s no investigation needed. she’s admitted she made the call.

  5. jeb

    If there were such a thing as real justice, Anita Hill would get an apology for what she endured – which she’s always done with class.

    Unfortunately, the quality of justice in this country is such that Scalia’s sock puppet has sat on the bench for nearly 20 years echoing whatever he’s told while his wife has profited from his status.

  6. Great subtext. I met Anita Hill years ago in Halifax while she was on some speaking tour. I felt obliged to apologize for the male half of the species; she laughed…

  7. the loon

    hey kiddo,

    perhaps ol’ orrin hatch should get bottom billing. as i recall, he took great delight in slowly and lasciviously pronouncing the words ‘pubic hairs’ during the hearings 20 years ago. i don’t think he’s been more excited than when he had the great ‘pleasure’ of questioning ms. hill.

    • loonie!!!!!! 😀

      i love it when you surprise me over here!

      i don’t remember specifics of the hearing, but when i saw a clip of arlen specter being nasty to anita hill, i wanted to throw something at the tv. rethuglican women should watch that hearing and see how much respect rethugs have for the female of the species. it was truly disgusting. 😡

  8. My vote is the pills and booze theory. Why she is suddenly concerned about his life long poon lust at this point of time is a mystery.

    • i’m sticking with that theory, if only for the reason that she would have been a lot more careful with her language if it had been a rehearsed attempt to get prof. hill to apologize. i still think there’s something behind her wording it as ‘what you did with my husband’ not ‘to my husband.’ for that matter, if she was still distraught, wouldn’t she have said ‘what you did to us?

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